“Mind the Gap”: Session 2
1. Chapter one:
In recounting her journey through many educational reforms, Diane
Ravitch makes a number of provocative statements.
Choose two, quote
them, and personally respond.
“Those who make policy are
most successful when they must advance their ideas through a gauntlet of checks
and balances, explaining their plans, submitting them to a process of public
review, and attempting to persuade others to support them”.
While I tend to agree
with the statement above as it pertains to the well being of the public
education system, this also seems to be the definition of bureaucracy. During
the review process, everyone would want to chime in to make sure that their
special interest was protected. This would also seem to explain why a) it takes
so long for any policy to be adopted and b) why the ‘pendulum keeps swing from
one political side to the other. Education policy in the US currently seems to
be like a giant jigsaw puzzle, where the shapes the color of the pieces are all
the same (can it ever be properly assembled?)
As I read through this
book I am beginning to think more and more that federal education policy should
be a broad framework, allowing the states a great deal of latitude.
“… I began ‘seeing like a
state,’ looking at schools and teachers and students from an altitude of 20,000
feet and seeing them as objects to be moved around by big ideas and great
plans”
(I took ‘state’ in this context
to mean nation-state)
Overall I found Ravitch’s
tone in Chapter One to be somewhat apologetic. She has realized that she has
made some mistakes along the way and apologized for (or at least justified the
change in her position) them, “I kept asking myself why I was losing confidence
in the reforms. My answer: I have a right to change my mind.”
The quote above seems to underscore
that Ravitch realizes the enormity of the responsibility that the federal
government has with regards to education. It’s one thing to ponder, study,
criticize and comment on what others are doing or have done, but it is
something else entirely to be the one making that policy for a nation of 300
million people. How could anyone expect to make significant change for all 60 million
students, especially over the last 20-30 years when federal policy seems to be
saying the we must please all of the people all of the time, (NCLB is a good
example of this belief)
2. Chapter two:
On page 16, Ravitch gives a brief definition of a well-educated
person. How would you characterize a
well-educated person?
What should any
well-educated person know in today’s world?
(I have no idea where
“page 16” was in my e-book. In addition, there is no qualifying what a
well-educated person is demographically. How old? What ethnic background? What
socio-economic group? And so on.)
A well educated person
should be one that has command his/her language (written, oral and reading) and
should be fairly versed in what his/her society as deemed as meeting the
requirements (math, literature, social norms) for their age group, taking in to
consideration a person’s ability to access the tools necessary to achieve these
goals.
In my world a
well-educated person also has a inclusive perception of the world around
him/her (encompassing all religious, ethnic, socio-economic, etc). In short any
well-educated person must be both “book smart” as well as “street smart”.
To me, there is an
underlying premise that all citizens of a society should never stop learning,
never stop improving who they are. Only then can they be productive members of
their community.
3. Thinking about the class discussion on the
book, what stands out for you? What
would you have liked to say that you did not say?
Thus far I am saying
pretty much whatever I happen to have on my mind with regards to the text. I
enjoy the discourse and appreciate the comments from the class. I certainly do not agree with everything said as we all come
from different places and therefore have a different perspective on teaching, education and such, (obvious I
know),
4. Choose one gap you listed from your subject
area and identify 3 resources: a web site, an article, and a book that can help
you fill that gap. List these and
discuss what you learned from one of these.
I have a weakness or a
“gap” in my knowledge of Jacksonian Democracy. I am reading The Reign of Andrew Jackson: A Chronicle in
the Frontier of Politics, have read Limits of Political Engagement in
Antebellum America: A New look at the Golden Age of Participatory Democracy (an
article from the Organization of American Historians) and have visited the
website “The American Presidency Project”, (http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/showelection.php?year=1824)
The website provided me
with a fact that I was quite surprised by. Vote turnout between 1824 and 1828
increased by some 70 percent, which was quite a large increase over a short period of
time. What was the cause for an increase of this size? Was it simply population
growth? Was it a newly found responsibility to vote? Were more people allowed
to vote?
5. Your annotations of resources are meant to be
both scholarly and brief. In the blog,
discuss in detail why/how any two of these articles were useful to your
topic/question(s). Consider such things
as listing specific information you learned that you didn’t know before; how
this new learning leads to other questions or sources; why this writer was
convincing; whether you would seek this writer out for other articles he/she
has written, and anything else you’d like to state in a blog that others can
learn from and read.
I have found that with the
4th of July holiday, I am running a little behind with regards to
this question. Stay tuned as I will follow up and revise here shortly.
6. Meg, did you do anything special for the 4th? OK, something more relevant. You have seen my questions regarding Jacksonian Democracy. How would you narrow the topic, given the context of the end product that we will be producing?
I viewed the following blogs...
Ashley's
Marcy's
Alex's
I viewed the following blogs...
Ashley's
Marcy's
Alex's
Hi Jerry,
ReplyDeleteI know we were supposed to pick same-subject blogs to respond to but I did that last week, and I have really enjoyed the comments and opinions you have shared in the classroom so I thought I would respond to your blog.
I have to admit: I spent high school doing my best to avoid history and government at all costs and spent a good deal of my ONE history class in college lamenting that I had to take it in the first place. But, as I get a little older I am beginning to find an appreciation for the history of our political system, so I enjoyed reading your interpretations of Ravich from a more "political science" (would that be correct?) perspective. You brought up that no one education policy is going to please all of the people all of the time, and I would agree with this. However, I feel that many people expect these sorts of policies to cater to all, and thus, please all. When "all" are not pleased, bureaucracy steps in and little gets done. This may be a completely inaccurate and cynical interpretation on my part, but it seems as though it is where many frustrations in educational (and more) reform result from.
Thanks for hanging in there for my somewhat uneducated analysis of educational reform issues :)
Ashley
Thanks for the kind words Ashley...
DeleteHigh school was sooo much different in the 1970's... we didn't make any attempt to include everyone. In fact, we had the "School Within A School" a separate (but equal??) place for under-performing students, or students with other needs. If you were in SWAS, everyone knew that there was learning or some other issue. It was such a negative label, yet at the same time, I now wonder if these kids got the attention that they needed.
In my last placement, I had a young man added to my class. A great kid, but I got no warning that he was going to be added. The fact that he was a quadriplegic, didn't seem to matter to anyone. Just put him in with everyone else, for the sake of inclusion. Heck, that doesn't work either.
I always enjoy a good discussion.
Hi Jerry,
ReplyDeleteI too responded to Ravich's statement about Diane Ravich "seeing like the state from 20,00o feet of altitude." I enjoyed reading your comment as I did not ever put myself in the shoes of the federal government. Yes, creating and changing the policy for over 300 million people in a nation is an astronomical responsibility. In order for reform to take place, is it possible to have one policy that fits all. As you mentioned, NCLB is a great example that "one size fit all" concept is far fetched. America is a place with a diverse group of people, cultures, learners, creaters,etc.. How can the people from 20,000 feet of altitude reform a nation?
I completely agree with your definition of an educated person, especially what you said about an educated person being “street smart” and “book smart.” As an elementary teacher, the focus in my classroom is not just on academic development (“book smart”) but about social and emotional development (“street smart”) as well. I think is it important for teachers to allow their students the opportunity to make choices and fix problems. Since you are a high school teacher, I am curious how much time goes into developing that part of the child. Is it expected that by high school kids are supposed to be able to experience things on their own or do you think it is still somewhat of the teacher’s responsibility to help develop the whole child?
ReplyDeleteReading about your research topic is making me realize how much I don’t know/never learned/don’t remember about history. I was a student who did not have good, dynamic history teachers. In my mind, there was too much memorizing of dates and I felt like the information was not applicable to my life. It was always my least favorite subject in school. It was not until I studied abroad in Barcelona during my first semester of junior year in college that I began to have an appreciation for history. I started to learn about how past events had completely shaped the city/country I was living in. I wish history teachers would have presented the information to me in a manner that explained how events in the past determined why things are the way they are today. I did not remember what Jacksonian democracy was. When you teach your students about it, what do you say? How do you connect it to their lives? I am interested because I would love to learn more about it.
Hi Christina,
DeleteIt can be said Jacksonian Democracy is still with us today.
Andrew Jackson lost the election of 1824 to JQ Adams even though Jackson won the popular vote. Adams won the vote in the House of Representatives after making a deal with Henry Clay and others. (This would later be known as the 'corrupt bargain). Jackson was furious and ran again in 1828.
The election of 1828 was the first 2-party election (mirroring the system we have today). It also known as one of the most viscous campaigns ever held (again similar to how campaigns are run today). It was also known for bringing out the common man to the polls (there was a 70% increase in voter turnout-a huge increase in just 4 years) and taking the election out of the hands of the elite.
Lots of other info but I have bored you enough for one night ;-)
jc
Dear Jerry,
ReplyDeleteOur Fourth of July was great---it was Carson's first 4th, and she loved our neighborhood parade and city concert. Granted, she was totally wiped out at the end of the day!
I am really excited about your research. And, I think that you already have a sound question: What factors contributed to the significant increase in voter turnout during the election of 1828? On a personal note, I love the NEH Edsitement resources and have used elements of this lesson:
http://edsitement.neh.gov/lesson-plan/1828-campaign-andrew-jackson-issues-election-1828-and-beyond